Anti-smoker screed

Report that says ETS is not so bad - BAD

Report that says ETS is the cause of all evil and death on the planet - GOOD

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Isn't it fascinating that smoking is so religiously attacked by the loonies and homosexual sodomy that leads so often to AIDS and numerous other diseases is a sacred cow above reproach.

We all know how to stop smoking-related illnesses: stop smoking. Solution? banishment, humiliation, constant barrage of criticism

We all know how to prevent almost 98% of AIDS transmissions: stop using dirty needles and stop homosexual sexual activity. Solution? Supreme Court endorsement (and, therefore, encouragement) to continue that disgusting behavior, and society's fear of recrimination if it passes a judgement on that type of behavior.

But smoking is the big bad evil. I don't smoke, but I'd rather be in a room full of smokers than . . . well you know where I'm going.

Bah, I have been trashed for years pointing out that when all this began there were never any peer-reviewed studies to prove that point of view.

Even as the opinionated jogged by the roadside, inhaling dibenzopyrenes and other proven cancer-causing compounds, while screaming about second hand smoke.

Years ago we noticed a sudden rise in people complaining about "Being allergic to smoke".

Response: "What ELSE did the Boston Globe tell you to think this morning?"

But smoking is the big bad evil. I don't smoke, but I'd rather be in a room full of smokers than . . . well you know where I'm going.

I suppose both are OK, as long as you remain seated....

Imagine that! No matter what the results of a 40 year study of THOUSANDS, we still can't believe the results of the study.

Additionally, the very people who funded the study question it's veracity. Why?

Just curious. Why is this excerpted? Does the LAT or WP own this Canadian paper as well?

Dang. Can't believe they didn't commit sewerside like V. Foster, after discovering the truth. Smoke Nazi's will get them now. Gotta go smoke.

Why is this excerpted?

It's possible. I just didn't want to take the chance on this newspaper because it's one I am unfamiliar with.

We all know how to stop smoking-related illnesses: stop smoking.

And here we are not even talking about smoking. We're talking about ETS, or second hand smoke.
ETS is where the premis comes for all the smoking bans throughout the country.

Additionally, the very people who funded the study question it's veracity. Why?

Just like the WHO study, it doesn't say what they wanted it to say.
From what I understand the ACS funded this until the last 2 to 4 years of the study. When they saw it was going against what they wanted it to say the defunded it posthaste.
At that point the scientists went looking for other funding.

I just didn't want to take the chance on this newspaper because it's one I am unfamiliar with.

I guess you got a point. I've seen stories from the Podunk Hillbilly Gazette excerpted by the mods becaus it turns out the WP owns the PHG.

It sucks because I hate excerpts and am myself too lazy to search out all the possible holdings of the WP and the LAT.

Oh well, I'll just have to get used to it.

LOL!!!

Additionally, the very people who funded the study question it's veracity. Why?

Only the first 38 years of the study were funded by the antis - they saw which way the results were going and so pulled the funding. The researchers wanted to finish the study and so went in search of further funding. unfortunately part of that money, a very small part, came from the tobacco industry.

It doesn't matter to the antis that this was there study that they abandoned because they didn't like the results - as far as they are concerned this is a tobacco industry study and the researchers are tobacco industry stooges.

GMTA

I suppose both are OK, as long as you remain seated....

With your mouth shut! ;^)

Before the Vietnam War, we didn't worry about who was overweight, who smoked, or who drank. We had lots of overweight people who smoked and drank throughout America, but it was nobody's business if they did so. Surpringly, there's been no statistics to show that ETS was in any way damaging to anyone back then. In the good old days, Mom and Pop probably smoked at home and in the car. And no one got sick from ETS. If you went into a meeting at work, almost EVERYBODY smoked. And no one got sick from ETS.

We've turned ourselves into such weinies in this country that it's almost impossible to go anywhere and not see people wearing kneepads, elbowpads, and crash helmets that look like bedpans for just about all outdoor activities. Our children's playgrounds are covered with soft fluffy wood chips to prevent injuries. People become almost religiously indignant if someone lights up a cigarette or cigar. When will this nonsense stop?

When will this nonsense stop?

when the tide turns and the ox being gored belongs to a large group of the weinies pushing these things down the throats of people with common sense.

From what I understand the ACS funded this until the last 2 to 4 years of the study. When they saw it was going against what they wanted it to say the defunded it posthaste.

A few weeks ago, just after this study made the news, The Wall Street Journal ran a letter to editor by a scientist who had done a study of second-hand smoke back in the 70s, funded by, I think, the American Lung Association (if not that, another anti-smoking zealot org). He completed the study, finding that an hour in a smoke-filled room (the letter pointed out that you could still find them in the 70s) was the equivalent of smoking .004 (or maybe .0004) cigarettes. The sponsor of the study did at least pay for it, but it was never released.